In my responses to Sharon's thread I want to try and make it clear that I do understand the guidelines of this program.
What I don't understand is how some can describe their HP and others can't. Although Sharon was trying to get across that we can't describe our Hp's she still went on to give a small description of hers when she said she prefers a Greater not a Higher - it is still a religious belief of hers and ought to fully remain that way if I understand the meaning of her actual post.
I can say my HP is my dog and not be accused of "shoving my beliefs down someone's throat" (maybe it is this actual sentence that bothers me - it is very aggressive - and two people in the thread used it)
Or I can say my HP is Jesus and boom - deletion - broken rules - and told the above aggressive statement or told to go join a christian program.
Sharon also mentioned she didn't have to believe in the "church" sense - I grew up in a home of alcoholics I didn't get taken to a church all my life - not everyone did - so I do not understand this statement either.
When I did go to church I thought I had to be perfect amongst all the perfect people and suffered silently inside because I knew I wasn't perfect. I came to see that the problem wasn't the people at church, the problem was my false belief of what it means to be in church. When I began to use 'honesty' and actually tell people what was going on inside me I was surprised to hear that I was among others who struggled yet come together because of the promises of God in Christ and found great comfort in their encouragement to press on and into God regardless of how I 'felt', to trust in His Truth.
I haven't met anyone in a 12 step program, who constantly focuses on 'the errors of church', to admit maybe they were the problem - even after doing the steps many times.
I had a private conversation with Campsurf the other day due to a post of mine being deleted that was responding to something he had said in his. He can use a Biblical persons name and suggest this person was all powerful and his post remains. I pointed out that the power came from God and my post is ***poof*** gone - not even a pm to me explaining why. This is the double standard that I find unfair. Now it could also have been deleted because I also shared that Jesus loved this ladies son - the original poster had already clarified she was a believer - I was speaking her language - not trying to convert her or anyone else - just encouraging her in what she already believes.
Anyway - I am free to share my thoughts and thank you for letting me - till this one goes **poof** as well for using that name that must not be named - gosh, maybe you all ought to call me Harry Potter. He wasn't afraid to say Voldemorts name.
Love Deb xxx